Thanks Tara, I've posted a map where I think she might be, I'm also having several psychics look into this for me, and will hopefully have more specific details tomorrow, or later on today.
Tara:)
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Thanks Tara, and will update the PDF.
Brian
As far as I am aware, the Google map is current. The R.V you are doing on
Rachel Mellon Skemp should relate to the Chris Cales (Stacy's Mom) one you
did I hope. Again Drew is a common factor. Have fun and sweet dreams of
quick arrests.
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Thanks, this did help and I'm getting additional people on this...you too.
Brian
I just got word back on the quarry:
"that quarry and the quarry at the 126th street exit off of I55 had aerial
searches and boats in them as well as cadaver dogs..I know for sure about
the dogs because I live right off of 126 and 135th by the Lakelands...I saw
the ISP with several dogs and saw them at 11th and Naper Plainfield and at
the Rod and Gun Clubs that go along 126 going into Plainfield..withing 5
days of Stacy reported missing"
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Thanks, I think Drew would have already planned that they would use cadaver dogs.
Is it possible the he could have soaked the body with something like bleach to throw off the scent?
If this happened, I wonder if it's possible to have search dogs find the scent of bleach?
Brian
12.9.2007
okay it would fit if the 3 and the 2 are missing from the house numbers and
the 9 is turned upside down now.
392 PHEASANT CHASE DR Bolingbrook
I don't know, I know coffee grounds throw them off or at least I've heard.
That is a big quarry, they could have missed it. I.'m throwing out requests
where I think it will help for them to go back and walk it again with the
dogs.
This what was on the vehicle search warrant.
"Any and all objects with chemical traces relating to pool chemicals or any
chemical which might be utilized to either retard, mask or accelerate the
deterioration or decomposition of a human body."
This would indicate the cops know about the Journal/diary: that you dreamed
about.
The paper trail
* Passports, utility bills, mail envelopes, diaries and user
manuals.(probably re: the GPS system in the vehicles)
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Thanks, will post this information.
Brian
Brian,
I am a former policeman privately investigating the disappearances of Stacy Peterson and Lisa Stebic. Peterson went missing Oct 28, 2007 and Stebic eant missing April 30, 2007. Both Husbands are suspects. Pursuant to your Google Map with a shaded area covering a quarry due West of Drew & Stacy Peterson's residence, I took some ground-level photos for you to study when you have time. Unfortunately, I could not gain access to the interior of the mining operations. Please review these and tell me if anything piques your interest.
Thank You, Jim
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Thanks Jim, have posted these images on my site and I hope my readers and I are able to help.
Brian
UPDATE 12.9.2007 10:05 PM:
Attention Psychics...below are 40 pictures taken by Jim, if you get any sort of feeling that Stacy maybe near one of them, please let me know.
I will post anyone's comments ASAP, and Jim will check it out...If you wish to send me something private, please state so in your email...Brian
UPDATE 12.12.2007 12:47 AM:
I have still not heard back from any psychic on this, again, if you're able to help, please do so...no one cares if your right or wrong...Brian
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When I was taking these pics today I noticed fresh footprints in the snow that could've only been made over the past two days (when people were not working on the construction site) that went under the bridge. You mentioned his awareness of satellite viewing. Could he have taken her under the bridge to foil toe airborne camera systems? If you think so, I'll go back tonight, but this time armed and dangerous. LOL He's a snake and I'm not taking any chances.
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Hi, not sure, but will be printing out your pictures tonight...if I can get anything, I will certainly let you know...and I hope you find her.
Brian
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Thank You Very Much. Brian, I just wanted to tell you, I know you charge 400 dollars for a personal dream, but I do not have the means to pay that amount at this time for a dream on Lisa Stebic. I will offer this... if you choose to try... I'll send you a very generous portion of the reward money if I find her as a result of your efforts. Is $2,000.00 reasonable enough? I am a man of my word.
Jim
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I cannot accept any money, just closing this case is all the reward I need. The pictures showing the fence, is the quarry ?
Brian
There are several pictures showing fences.
The first pics with fences are of the Hassert Street entrance to the quarry. Beige/Lt. Brown Steel building with dark roof and snow covered. Sign on fence at entrance, "tower" in background towards the left of the page.
The other pics with fences are of a municipal owner waste water treatment plant by a large recreational facility. Basebell diamonds, soccer fields are to the south, the water facility is to the north. Smelly area, as you would imagine. To the West are wooded areas. To the East are nice homes. To the North is a river with power lines running from West to East. Here is a Google Link for you to view it from satellite...
Indian Boundary Rd, Bolingbrook, IL
Link: <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=indian+boundary,+bolingbrook,+il.&sll=37.09024,-110.126953&sspn=30.682067,88.066406&ie=UTF8&ll=41.710502,-88.115888&spn=0.009675,0.021672&t=h&z=16&om=1>
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Thanks, will post this...Brian
Stacy wanted to leave, she was tired of being emotionally drained, held in financial bondage, and controlled. She was in the family room of the home which is in the rear of the house adjacent to the kitchen there is a hallway a living room up front and the stairwell that leads up. They argued in the family room, she was wearing jeans, a long sleeve shirt, black or dark puffy vest and her hair was in a ponytail (she wore it alot like that always off of her face). She tried to get past him but he caught her in the hall near the living room. He grabbed her shook her, and then choked her into unconciousness. He drug her by her hair down some stairs to what looks like a basement/crawl space wooden frame opening. There is a black pole just to the left of the stairwell. He wraps her in what looks like commercial grade visqueen or plastic, the light is shining behind him just a single bulb like in an unfinished basement she is showing me him standing over her and striking her through the plastic with a bat or shovel behind the left ear area. They are not going to find blood or other traces because of the plastic. The visqueen is opaque so that it almost appears milky or white. I don't see her leaving the house. Is there a section of the house that does not sit on a basement but on a crawl space?
He was wearing a dark jacket that was once a very standard piece of his wardrobe that is now missing if they check. There is something on that jacket that would place him at the crime scene. It has a standard collar and a loose fit/straight fit bottom, he had on a pair of jeans, boots. He is smart enough to rid himself of the basic evidence, he taunts the police everytime he is interviewed. He is going down.
This was posted on the sight and there is more....I eluded to the fact that he has done this before like he is practicing.
Then when I seen the sat watch 8 and cloud cover, I went to look at an area on google maps and couldn't see it because .....it was covered with clouds.....
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Thanks, posted...Brian
12.10.2007
Sorry, that was a dead link. Here is the article:
Dec 4, 2007 4:27 PM (2 hrs 4 mins ago) By CARLA K. JOHNSON, AP
BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (Map, News) - The hum of the satellite uplink trucks on
Pheasant Chase Court is near constant. Each morning, reporters lift their
paper coffee cups to one another in wordless greeting. And the goings-on at
the house marked "6" are scrutinized by a dozen lenses day after day after
day.
The media circus slowing traffic in front of the home of former police
officer Drew Peterson has gone on for weeks, but will end eventually, said
Realtor Jessica Majersky, who just sold a home nearby despite the parade of
reporters and the ribbons fluttering from the trees to represent Peterson's
missing wife, Stacy, and one of his ex-wives, who is dead.
"We're closing on it today," Majersky said of her recent home sale. "This is
a wonderful community. There are bad people everywhere. ... This is just
today's news."
Peterson has been named a suspect in the disappearance of his wife, who
hasn't been seen since Oct. 28. Authorities, who have called the case a
possible homicide, also are re-examining the death of Peterson's third wife,
Kathleen Savio.
Examiner.com Related Articles:
* Prosecutors Review Peterson Probe
* Summary of police calls relating to Drew Peterson and his current, former
wives
They say Savio's 2004 death, then ruled an accidental drowning, now appears
to be a homicide staged to look like an accident. Peterson has not been
named a suspect in that case.
But with every bit of news - from a blue container allegedly removed from
Peterson's house the day Stacy vanished to Peterson's appearances on
national television and verbal sparring with local reporters - the media
frenzy grows in what once was a quiet neighborhood.
Some residents stay behind their doors; others emerge fairly frequently to
speak, like Sharon Bychowski, who reportedly has drawn the ire of Peterson
for speaking out about her suspicions of him. One lawn, directly across the
street from Peterson's house, is surrounded by small "Keep Out" signs and
yellow caution tape, an attempt perhaps to stop reporters from making
shortcuts across the grass when there's a sudden move in the pack that
signals something - anything - is happening.
Jim Lepper, who lives a few houses from Peterson, said the hordes of
reporters and satellite trucks are starting to wear thin.
"I'm kind of tired of it," said Lepper, an insurance company manager. "At
three o'clock in the morning they're jockeying for position. You hear the
'beep, beep, beep.' My dog goes nuts."
But he's found there are up sides to the ordeal. He got to meet Fox News'
Greta Van Susteren and, "she's a lot of fun."
Reporters and photographers, on the whole, are not thrilled about the
Bolingbrook stakeout assignment.
"Are we happy to be here?" Glen Holcomb, a freelance news photographer
working for one Chicago TV station, asked sardonically. "All the media
outlets are afraid they'll be scooped by somebody else if they're not here."
An incident on Friday demonstrated just how competitive the story has
become.
A semi pulled up and hauled away a red Harley-Davidson motorcycle and a
canary-yellow tool case the size of a piano - momentarily getting
journalists' adrenaline flowing. Were police there to seize the items?
Alas, it was far less newsworthy, but still worth reporting: Stacy
Peterson's father, Anthony Cales, wanted his bike and tool case back. He had
stored them at his daughter and son-in-law's house, said family friend
Pamela Bosco, and he arranged through a third party to get them back.
Two reporters followed the truck hauling the items away after it left the
neighborhood in hopes of getting an interview with Cales. But truck driver
Dan Mejerech of Terry's Automotive managed to lose them by driving through a
busy industrial park in the nearby suburb of Woodridge. He left the
reporters flummoxed when a car pulled out of a parking space and came
between predator and prey.
"I just figured it was something I wanted to keep private, so as not to draw
attention to the people who were nice enough to store it for him," Mejerech
said of his secret destination, where Cales' motorcycle found a new home.
Having national stars like Van Susteren and Geraldo Rivera covering the
story only increases the hunger from local editors to break news.
"Every day something else comes out that rekindles interest in it," Holcomb
said as he tried to stay warm in a down jacket and wool cap. "It's got
legs."
Hi Brian,
I am a resident of Bolingbrook and live about a mile away from the Petersons. On Sat, December 8, after reading your post regarding the area on the map you highlighted, I drove past the area and there was a search team with dogs and a boat under that bridge and along the body of water. I mention this because those pictures that Jim posted of the area, he pointed out that there were fresh footprints in the snow under the bridge and along the water and that is the reason why.
I'm wondering if they may in found something because on the same night, the police swarmed Drew Peterson's house and there hasn't been any word of this on the news. It was weird because the news crews have been camping out at the Peterson home for weeks now and when the police stormed his house there wasn't one media truck to be found. Things have turned very hush, hush.
Cheri
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Hi Cheri, thanks for this information.
Brian
Here is some information that may have something to do with with your dreams regarding Christine (RV 545)..mom of Stacy (RV 542).
The three viewings you have dated 11/14/2007.
First of all, Stacy Peterson is Drew Peterson's 4th wife, she's missing.
Christine is Stacy's mom. She went missing under mysterious circumstances.
Christine has been known as Christine Cales, as well as Christine Toutges.
Christine was last known to have been carrying a bible and either going to or leaving from church.
They lived in Illinois.
Christine had a baby (Stacy's sibling) that reportedly died from SIDS. It's been said that Christine may have had psychological problems brought on by the death of her baby, and this is one reason why she 'disappeared' later in life. Could the dream you had regarding the baby..the pillow..and murder, actually been what happened to the baby who reportedly died from SIDS? And in that dream, where it refers to "no PPD, psychical disorder", perhaps to mean that Christine actually did not have psychological problems brought on by the SIDS death, perhaps 'someone' in her life at the time only wanted it to appear like that?
Your first dream, where it refers to "go to the prison, he will talk"...Stacy's older brother is Yelton Cales, he is currently in a correction center! And it been reported that Stacy may have had info about her mom that she was about to tell, or wanted to tell..before she up and goes missing. Maybe Yelton knows what Stacy knows?
And Drew has recently said this to the media:
"I believe she's [Stacy Peterson] either going to tell people where she is or she's going to go down deeper, like how her mom did," said [Drew] Peterson. Drew Peterson said there have been indications Toutges is still alive but she has yet to surface. Peterson hopes the tendency does not run in the family."
Some people may think Drew meant one thing by those words..Many of us find what Drew said to be cryptic, such as clues to what may have actually happened to Stacy. His words, "going to go down deeper"..."like how her mom did"..."yet to surface"...may be clues that Stacy and her mom are buried or underwater, etc.
Am looking forward to any possible future dreams that you may have on either Stacy or Christine!
There are many unsolved mysteries of death, suicide, or missing people who have been in some way connected to Drew.
http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_mysteries.htm
This is a 'who's who' list:
http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_names.htm
You are a blessing to so many Brian! Thank you!
Myst
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Thanks for this information...posted.
Brian
Brian: Drew worked here at Will's County Sheriffs Dept: This sounds like
reports his ex's made on him!!!!
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/589dfil.html
Probably good to keep this one private
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Hi, no I think it's best if this is information is made public.
Brian
Brian, standing on the bridge on Naper-Plainfield Rd., just North of Hassert Blvd., I can't help but think about "hiding from satellite imagery." If you wanted to hide from satellites, wouldn't it make sense to hide under something...like a bridge? I noticed two sets of footprints in the snow heading from South to North on the West side of the bridge... South or the river...under the bridge... then one single set of footprints emerging from the East side of the bridge, heading due East into the field towards Drew's house. I didn't look under the bridge because my Son was with me, but I'm wondering if there's an access door (panel) or something under the South side of the bridge where he (Drew) could've stashed Stacy's body and maybe that of another victim. Panel 26? Panel 9? Coule she be buried under the South side of the bridge in an access area that nobody ever checks? The police keep winding up in the water, along the canal, in fields or woods, always searching on the S/W or S/E side of town, when this is located on the West side or N/W side. Drawing them away intentionally? Phoney "leads?"
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Hi, good point, if you can safely look under the bridge, it might be a good idea.
Brian
The latitude for Bolingbrook, Illinois is 41n42
Those numbers are an exact match of the numbers that were in your dream. What did you mean by the comment with them?
I'm an astrologer and checked my program that was made to give that type of information.
Thanks, , Keep up the Good Work !
Kathleen
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Hi Brian,
The latitude for Bolingbrook, Illinois is 41n42
Those numbers are an exact match of the numbers that were in your dream. What did you mean by the comment with them?
I'm an astrologer and checked my program that was made to give that type of information.
Thanks, , Keep up the Good Work !
Kathleen
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Hi Kathleen, I'm not sure I though this was a phone number.
Brian
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you said:
Hi Kathleen, I'm not sure I though this was a phone number.
Brian
my reply: I'm still wondering if it is a cop badge #
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Hi, not sure, but will post this question.
Brian
I have sent this information to you in two other e-mails, but I am not sure if you received them yet--so I am sending it again.
Please go to your dream diary for June 16, 2007 (DD5624). You wrote some things there that seem to relate to the Peterson case. You also sketched some images there that might relate to some objects in Jim's photos. I don't know what your sketches depict (can you remember?), but one of them looks like a suspension bridge, some kind of tower, or maybe an upside down picnic table(?) to me. Also, do you see a number "7" in one of your sketches for that dream (the first sketch at the top of the page)? The sketch at the bottom of the page almost looks like it could be a staircase to me.
In addition, perhaps your reference to "6 miles" in DD5624 refers to the fact that the quarry company is approximately 6 miles from the center of Bolingbrook, IL(?). And maybe "STR" refers to a DNA marker?
If the Illinois State Police are reading these posts, I'm sure they will follow up with whatever leads they think could be credible. Otherwise, maybe you can contact Greta Van Susteren of the Fox News Channel and she or Mark Fuhrman can check out the quarry or other dream/suspicious locations for you.
You have an amazing gift, and I hope it helps bring the alleged perpetrator to justice. Good luck.
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Hi, got them, and thanks have posted and linked to this DD. From what I know, police are checking this site, and hopefully its some use to them.
Brian
DD5624, 6.16.07
"Stacy 6 miles - murder is not boyfriend, 8/11/2007 81622 STR"
12.11.2007 1:17AM I just guessing, but this could be what Drew might say if Stacy is not found alive...researching STR...Brian
12.11.2007
I read this today, not sure what to make of it, perhaps you or someone else might..
Myst
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Hi, I cannot, but will post this.
Brian
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Comment by Where is Stacy?
December 10th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
http://tirgana.livejournal.com/4187.html
Entry tags: intuition, psychic, speaking to the dead, stacy peterson, theresa chaze
Stacy Peterson
May this information be directed to whoever can make the best use of it to achieve justice, while protecting me from harm. Stacy Peterson is dead; she was killed because she finally found the information she needed to free herself and her children. It was in a small metal box tucked away in an attic or crawl space. It contained the documentation his third wife was saving to protect her children and the trophies he took from two other women. Anna or Abigail with the last name that starts with a *–the name is short. The second woman was named Margaret or Margretta. Her last name was a Latino or Spanish. They were also murdered because they rejected him. Both were affairs during his first marriage. Anna lived in a down northeast approximately 15-20 miles. Margaret was closer and from southeast. All three bodies are buried on a friend/brother’s land. His name is Mark, Marc, or Marcus. They are twins in every way but blood. They started together, but Marc left and started his own company. I see heavy equipment. It looks like it could be use for construction, but instead it deconstruction –it is used to tear down and remove. It is a rural setting on the other side of the cemetery. Vine road or Drive. The house is a white ranch with dark shutter and attached garage on 20-22 acres of land that backs up to National forest or land otherwise set aside for public use. The numbers 284 are involved. The bodies are located 3/4 mile straight back from the garage, just after a line of trees.
A female family member from each of the third and fourth wives came accidentally together near the third wife’s gave. Stacy’s “sister” came to ask for her help in finding Stacy. The other woman visits often. They comforted each other and shared information. But more importantly, they prayed to the Virgin Mary together. One prayed for the truth to be revealed. The other prayed for Stacy to be found. Both vowed to light a candle to her for the rest of their lives if their prayers would be answered. She heard and are senting them both white roses as a sign.
She says:
I was the white rose born without thorns
when my petals drop they will awaken the storm.
The truth you hid deep in the night
now shall be revealed with truth’s own light.
When they go to the place, they need to carry a white rose. They will find who they seek when the petals fall.
The “chief” doesn’t have as much control as he thinks. Most don’t want to know. But there are two who are actively hiding the truth. The woman is in the lab. She was to be wife number five. She is the source of the contamination. Her name is androgynous–Jan or Jamie. Short brown hair, hazel to blue eyes, young, pretty in her own right, but not beautiful. The other is higher up and remains in the shadows. He is younger but has more authority; his ego bullies and controls others with threats and promises. He does what he does not out of friendship but to protect his political ambition.
QUESTION
(Anonymous)
2007-12-08 05:34 pm UTC (link)
DOES THE JAN OR JAMIE HAVE EXTREMELY STRAIGHT HAIR AND IS THE HAIR CUT: BANGS AND SHORT TO THE EARS AND THEN GETS ONLY AN INCH LONGER PAST THE EARS?
tirgana
2007-12-08 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Yes. He has totally conned her into believing that he is being set up. In her eyes, he is being victimized by superiors who are afraid of what he knows. This is not true. Many of them have gone out on a limb to protect him to keep the department from being embarrassed. There is something with her vision. Either she wears glasses or should wear glasses.
The Chief really needs to be careful. He must never go out on a call alone. He is getting to close to something that many don’t want known. It is bigger than the Petersons. Next week he will get a call that at first he will dismiss as a crackpot. It contains the grain of knowledge he needs. Plus he needs to talk to the “brother”. If he calms him down and talks to him, he will get the information he needs to find Stacy. He needs to know that the “brother” needs to be protected by an outside source. He did not attempt to commit suicide; he had help. Once he feels safe, the Chief can tell him the home I described; he knows where it is.
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found at www.gretawire.foxnews.com
Brian, you and your readers have some very good information here. Can you please have your readers contact the Nancy Grace Show?
She can get the word out!!!! And she has a live call in show on CNN Headline News!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24
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Hi, you just did :)
Brian
There is a street in Bolingbrook called "MINER" it is a small one block long street with houses tha line each side, it dead ends into a little park with a stream running through it and when you make a right turn there is a bridge that goes over the stream with three large dainage pipes under it. There are also several churches in the area. The street before Miner is "526" do you feel anything about this site?
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Hi, no, but this is normal as I usually just deal in dreams. Will post this information, as many real psychics do read my site.
Brian
Brian: I just found something really puzzling on the zaba people search
site. There are two Drew Petersons listed on Pheasant Chase Dr. One at 392
and one at #6. What do you make of it?? Zoom out on it.
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Hi, I do not know, could be a mistake.
Brian
12.12.2007
DD from 12/10/07 maybe related.
DD6277
"Drews midnight drive is a fake, II, 811 - he wants to be followed, VCAN star"
www.DefendDrew.com ???
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I believe this hosting provider shut him down... Hostmonster.com...could just that he went over his allotted bandwidth or they just did not want to host him.
More than likely he will switch to a host such as 1st-amendment.org
Also, even though I do believe he is guilty of several murders, it does not mean I'm right, and in this country...everyone is assumed innocent until proven guilty.
Brian
Domain Name: defenddrew.com
Record created: 2007/12/9
Record expired: 2008/12/9
http://host189.hostmonster.com/suspended.page/disabled.cgi/defenddrew.com
Domain servers in listed order:
ns57.1and1.com ns58.1and1.com
Administrat:
name-- DNS MANAGER
org-- ABSOLUTEE CORP. LTD.
country-- CN
province-- Hongkong
city-- Hongkong
address-- FLAT/RM B 8/F CHONG MING BUILDING 72 CHEUNG SHA WAN RD KL
postalcode-- 999077
telephone-- +00.85223192933
fax-- +00.85223195168
E-mail-- de3099783842801@absolutee.com
all other contacts are the same
they say Drew shut the site down himself.
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Ok, seems an odd way to shut down the site...not even sure how he could produce such results without his hosts involvement...no DNS changes were made.
Why not just say...site is closed.
Brian
12.12.2007
www.DefendDrew.com now says this:
Closed.
and name servers have changed to:
ns57.1and1.com and ns58.1and1.com
Brian
12.13.2007
I wanted to comment on a posting you have on your site. It's for the Stacy Peterson file. Someone had asked why Drew Peterson has 2 addresses. The address of 392 Pheasant Chase is the house that he once shared w/ his 3rd wife, who was found dead, Kathleen Savio. He is residing in 6 Pheasant Chase, which is just up the street. (a little weird, but ok)
I also wanted to know, does the "VCAN" in your last dream have something to do w/ the pic posted up above of the "Vulcan" quarry?
Thanks!!
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Hi, thanks for this, ands yes, I think it does.
Brian
VCan is short for Vulcan which is the name of the quarry. Also the F.B.I has
soil samples and will be able to match them easily if they came from the
quarry. That is good news.
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Hi, how did you find this out?
Brian
Bolingbrook, I0
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=bolingbrook,+il.&ie=UTF8&ll=41.687512,-88.172901&spn=0.00242,0.005418&t=h&z=18&om=1
How do you feel about this little "island" in the middle of the river?
Or any of these other places within the highlited areas, zoomed in and
up-close, that you talked about. I'll be happy to go exploring. The
FED's and I.S.P. are doing their textbook investigation, but I think
they're way off course. Does "Robin Renea Abrams" ring any bells with
regard to Drew? She came up missing, too. I'm being intentionally
vague so as not to subliminally taint your thoughts.
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I have not gotten anything back from the psychic request I posted, but yes, if you can please check this area out.
I realize it might sound sick, but if he did carry the body, it could be possible he may of taken more than one trip.
People are still asking be about this blue barrel thing...I still am not able to see anything like that...but if he did have one, maybe he used it as a decoy.
If not, and he really did put her body in a barrel, wouldn't doing so keep the body decaying?
Was able to find this article on the web, (below) it talks about a barrel and hydrochloric acid.
If acid were in the barrel, and if it was eventually found, could it be possible that all forensic evidence would be destroyed?
If the barrel is in water, and it's leaking...is it possible to locate the barrel using traces of the acid in the water?
Can sniffer dogs be trained to search for the scent of hydrochloric acid?
Does anyone know how it could be possible for Drew to get such acid?
Just some questions that may or not be helpful.
Brian
Biochemist Convicted of Murdering Husband With Acid
Calif. Woman Convicted of Killing Husband by Pouring Acid Over His Unconscious Body
Murder suspect Larissa Schuster confers with her attorney Roger Nuttall Wednesday, Dec. 12, 2007, in a Los Angeles County courthouse. Schuster, 47, is accused of murdering her estranged husband, Timothy Schuster, in July 2003 and sealing his body in a barrel of acid. (AP Photo/Nick Ut)
LOS ANGELES Dec 13, 2007 (AP)
A biochemist who killed her husband by knocking him out and pouring hydrochloric acid on him was convicted Wednesday of first-degree murder.
A Superior Court jury found Larissa Schuster, 47, of Clovis, guilty of murdering Timothy Schuster with the special circumstance that the murder was committed for financial gain. His half-dissolved body was found a few days after his 2003 death in a barrel that was inside a storage unit that his wife had rented.
Schuster faces a mandatory term of life in prison without parole at sentencing, set for Jan. 16.
Defense attorney Roger Nuttall declined to comment to The Fresno Bee after the hearing. A call to his office by The Associated Press seeking comment after the verdict was not immediately returned.
Jury selection began in October in Fresno. The trial was moved to Los Angeles after a judge ruled there was too much media attention in Fresno County to be able to find an impartial jury.
The Schusters co-owned a chemical lab and were in the midst of a bitter divorce.
Prosecutors said Larissa Schuster and her former lab assistant kidnapped her 45-year-old husband on July 10, 2003, knocked him out with a stun gun and chloroform-soaked rag, then dumped his bound body headfirst into a barrel while he was still breathing.
The assistant, James Fagone, told authorities that Larissa Schuster then poured hydrochloric acid into the 55-gallon container.
Fagone said Schuster paid him $2,000 to help rob and assault her husband but he didn't know murder was planned. Schuster testified that Fagone killed her husband by accident and that she only helped dispose of the body.
Fagone was convicted in December 2006 of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole.
Brian
UPDATE 10:40 PM:
I did check, and hydrochloric acid, also known as muriatic acid is used to clean pools...and Drew did have a poolone.
I have been following your site and dreams after learning of you because of my interest in Stacy Peterson, missing person. Last night I had a dream in which you spoke to me ( I know your voice due to you speaking on your website) and you said to me "time is not linear in dreams". You also said something about somebody (a woman?) speaking to you about things in your dreams, or somebody from each event. Following your lead, I wrote this stuff down and went back to sleep.
I think at the same time I think Stacy Peterson spoke to me and said "I dropped 5-7 feet." Again, I wrote this down. I also felt she did not know where she was, is lost.
Thanks for posting your dreams.
Dawn
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Thanks for sharing your dream Dawn, if you have any more, please let me know. It also helps (at least for me) to use a voice recorder...I use an old style because of the big buttons.
Brian
Authorities are planning to drain the entire lockport canal in response to
statements made to the grand jury yesterday. They have been given
information from a witness in the jury that evidence relating to wife #3
(kathleen ) was thrown in the canal
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Thanks, information posted...Brian
12.15.2007
Thank you for offering such a wonderful site. I am an Intuitive Empath and Medium. I have been following the Peterson case from day one and received many messages which I have sent on to the family and Law Enforcement.
You posted photos for us to view. Areas/locations. I am VERY drawn to number ONE. And it coincides with my findings prior. And the visions I have received via Stacy's location.
Is it possible to tell me where that is from...?
Intuitively yours,
Annie
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Hi Annie, thanks, I'm not exactly sure about image 1, but I will find out for you.
Brian
12.16.2007
UPDATE:
Source: call leads police to ship canal
STACY PETERSON CASE
December 15, 2007
By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
ROMEOVILLE - The search of the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal for missing
mom Stacy Peterson is based on cell phone records showing her husband Drew
Peterson was near there when he received an anxious call from his
sister-in-law, a source said.
The sister-in-law, Cassandra Cales, has said she called Drew Peterson's cell
phone about 11 p.m. Oct. 28. Stacy Peterson was last seen that morning.
Cales said Peterson sounded out of breath and said he was at his home. But
Cales said she was outside his house and he was not there.
Now, a source says, cell phone records show Drew Peterson was somewhere near
Romeoville by the Sanitary and Ship Canal.
"When Cassandra called Drew's phone, it pinged near that area," the source
said.
Because wireless phone calls usually are sent through the nearest tower, law
enforcement can roughly determine where a person was when he made or
received a call.
The search of the canal floor, however, does not seem to be achieving much,
other than removing abandoned cars from the waterway, said a police source
involved in the investigation.
"I think they're just trying to show they looked, she's not in there, and
move on to the next location," the source said.
The state police-coordinated search of the canal was scheduled to resume
today.
The police source also questioned a claim made by Cales that Drew Peterson
fired a shot from his second floor bedroom down to the garage, narrowly
missing Stacy as she went to fetch a soda.
"Why didn't that come out the first day?" he said of the alleged August
incident. "Now it's like they're just making stuff up."
Cales could not be reached for comment.
The law enforcement source went on to dismiss reports of police searching
for rectangular blue containers supposedly missing from the Peterson's home.
"I'm not (looking for them)," the source said. "Nobody else seems to be."
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Thanks, posted.
Brian
I am attaching some pictures I have taken of some areas. Can you tell me if you sense anything from these? I am also wondering, is it possible for you to do an RV on a possible suspect, to see where he was when he was missing on February 29, 2004, and from November 3-5th, 2007?
~b
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Thanks B, will post this...right now, I do not sense anything but being very tired...but will try my best.
Brian
A1
A2
Here are some additional pictures to the previous email I sent regarding Stacy Peterson...as they would not all fit in one email.
~b
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Thanks again...posted...Brian
A3
A4
A5
A6
A7
Brian: I found this on Greta's blog. Want to check it out on the map?
Bolingbrook Resident said:
I used live in Bolingbrook from 1971-83. My boys frequently went to a quarry
to fish that was north of Boughton Road. They walked there by going into the
woods behind Grove Dental and crawling over a fallen tree to get there.
Rumor had it that someone had drowned in the quarry. That's why it was 'off
limits' and why a guard that drove around the quarry every so often
confiscated all their fishing gear when he caught there. They said it was
really deep. Do you know if that body of water is still there and if it's
been searched? Love your show and would sleep a little better knowing every
rock has been overturned to find Stacy.
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Hi, not sure, the DD said the quarry...I'm not sure if drew would dispose of a body in water, seems to easy to be discovered.
And yes, what map?
Brian
Brian this post is regarding the bar that Drew and Steve his son drink at
(Leo's Bar). It is as you can read in the post next to the quarry!
William in Plainfield said:
Immediately adjacent to the area to the south, on the south side of the
bridge is a quarry, which is next to Leo's Bar. I've been down there several
times because I've been drawn to the area for some reason. Immediately east
of Leo's bar is a forest preserve and that is surrounded by the Quarry
property. I've been on both sides searching and on the south side of the
bridge along the north side of the creek, I saw a blue barrel back on the
first day EquuSearch was out there but it appeared to be a garbage can and
the end of a boat landing into the river.
The quarry property is easily accessible through the high tension wire's
between Leo's Bar due south until you hit the fence, which you can get to
the other side of the fence. There were tire tracks so accessibility is a
snap. Also, the Forest Preserve on the north side of the street, where the
orange thing is, underneath the bridge the Quarry property is accessible and
the area is so vast, many parts of it are not traveled by employees I would
gather for months and months on end.
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Thanks, posted...do you know how much of this quarry has been searched and if they have had dogs looking for the mentioned chemicals?
Brian
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Their searches are so scattered it would be difficult to re-trace their
steps. I'm not up to a months worth of goggle to find out.
It's just my guess, but I would say they would take chemicals throwing the
dogs off into account in places like his home but not larger areas.
Make sense? I really think the water in the quarry needs to be tested. Can't
hurt.If it tests positive for anything that would mask decomposition, they
should send divers in.
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Hi, I agree, wouldn't think it would be to difficult to test the water, if they did find something...they I would imagine that current and chemical strength could lead right to the source.
Brian
There is a body of water to the bottom left hand corner of the map you
marked with a blue circle. I wonder if the watch 8 reference in your dream
was refering to the quarry security guard and Drew knew what that guards
patrol schedule was perhaps..
1: Drew mentioned working 6 or 8 jobs (paraphrased) at times to support his
family. Perhaps he was a guard at one time for the quarry.
OR.2: The security guard hung out at the same bar as Drew and Steve which
was right next to the quarry and blabbed about his schedule. (Leo's Place).
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Good points.
Brian
Can you look at these pictures for me? I really feel there is something here. Please do not post the location at this time.
Thanks!
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Hi, I did, but I do not know...I posted the images for others to look at...but not the location...is this what you wanted me to do?
Brian
~b
B1
B2
B3
Thanks for getting back to me. The pictures of the orbs...I'm not sure about posting them...I've been asked by others on the website to post them...but I just have a funny feeling like maybe I shouldn't. This vicinity, with about a mile radius...for some reason I have been feeling lately like I shouldn't be posting all the information for all to see. I thought maybe you could gather something about the orb that showed up above that lake. I took several pics of all the lakes there, and this one and the one next to the quarry both had orbs present. The lake with this one orb, showed up in about four pictures...all of them in the same spot on the lake.
~blue
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Hi again...anything goes...personally I believe that many orbs are just dust or ice particles that form on dust...but there is some unexplained stuff out there too.
It's up to you what you want me to make public, in this case I think everything should be :)
Brian
This email is actually for the police officer who sent the pictures but just dont know how to contact him.
This is the email I sent to the search team at the beginning of the search in November regarding Stacy Peterson.
You may get email's often from psychics and others
claiming to be able to locate people through
clairvoyance. I don't know if I have any of those
abilities but I have had in the past, visions/dreams of
events that are happening to people as they are
happening or before they happen.
I have had a reoccurring vision for the last two weeks
in reference to this case. It does not change. At
first I did not know about Stacy and had flashes of
this scene. It did not make any sense, so I just
basically filed the information away. When I saw the
news story I immediately thought of the vision and the
fact that it was reoccurring.
I see an aerial view of what looks like a construction
site. The ground is a dark gold/brown color as it has
recently been moved. There is a large (tall) piece of
machinery that is partly painted red. There is a truck
trailer parked at the site. People are working in hard
hats. It may be a new home site or new road site in a
rural area. Yesterday another vision appeared to me. I
saw a large cloth bag that appeared to have someone
inside who was curled up in a fetal position. There
was a shrill screaming coming from the bag. The bag
was either burlap or some other light tan color. I
have no idea where you have conducted your search so
far but I believe that you will find Stacy. I believe
that she will lead you to her because she wants to be
found. My interpretation of the vision is that Mr.
Peterson has disposed of Stacy in an area that is
about to be or has just been paved/or built over in
some way. Bless you for all your work.
To your success!
Peace and Blessings
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Hi, posted...Brian
12.17.2007
Brian, I just wanted to tell you... I confirmed everything you mentioned in the Lisa Stebic RV. Street numbers, campground, etc. Everything turned out to be very good. Those who think you are a fraud are WRONG! I believe I'm on the verge of locating both Lisa Stebic and Stacy Peterson. If I do, I will gladly write a testimonial for your abilities...and then some. ave you ever done anything regarding te missing candy heiress, Helen Brach? If not, please do, when you have time.
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Hi, glad to hear it, and although I would like everyone to believe me, just finding them is reward enough for me...but I do welcome any testimonial you want to write. Let me know if you need anything else from me or my readers.
I do not think so, but I can add this to my pending list if you like.
Brian
Subject: Fw: case# 542
> You said:
>
> Thanks, are you able to get a map I can post with Drews house in the
center,
> I maybe able to pinpoint where Stacy is.
>
> Brian
>
> I sent you this:>
>
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=392+PHEASANT+CHASE+DR+Bolingbrook+%2Bmap++&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab
> =wl
> Note the address on this google map was Drew and Kathleen Savios address
not
> Stacy and Drews new house. I am really sorry. Here is the corrected
address
> and map link:
>
> #6 PHEASANT CHASE DR Bolingbrook
The second one was wrong too because google flipped the house address! This
IS FINALLY THE CORRECT ONE LOL> What a mess !
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=6%20Pheasant%20Chase%20Ct&city=Bolingbrook&state=IL&zipcode=60490%2d4513&country=US&geodiff=1
>
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Thanks, update posted...Brian
12.19.2007
Gretawire Post today:
So local news here says they are shifting the search for Stacy to another
body of water. the thing that is curious to me is I thought someone said in
here that a psyhic talked about columns rising out of the water.
Next to Leo's is a park by the River in that park are several gazebo's that
have Greek columns all over the park area, some of the gazebo's arre
finished and some are not, but they are close to the park, very close to the
dive sight of this past week, and real close to the green train in R Mucha's
pictures if you saw them.
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Have they searched the quarry?
Brian
Cassandra has stated that they are done searching the canal.
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Thank you...do you know if they have searched the area in blue...not in the water?
Brian: I think I attached link correctly this time.
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Got it, and thanks...Brian
photo taken Mon 12/17/07 at site where divers have been looking in Sanitary and Ship canal concerning missing person Stacy Peterson, rv542. Photo looks the same to me as dd6287: FBI mobile command center with satelite dish on top. Other side of vehicle from where photo is taken is canal that is a drop of maybe 8 feet straight down. Barrel on lower left hand corner covered with debris? Pointy thing on right of picture bow of boat? Still here??? Are they still diving there?
12.21.2007
Here is the link for current updates weekly on this case, just refresh the
page. The updates are dated :) :)
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/
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Thanks, link posted.
Brian
I am writing you again and this makes no sense at all to me, since I have never been in the area. but here goes.
If you go down a road to some kind of trout farm to the river and look across there is a road which I don't think is paved. It runs around a body of water and somehow, I keep seeing a limestone type cave. In my mind, there are like two bodies of water which look like a foot print. (that may be a different view than what anyone can see so don't go on that) In one of those bodies of water is either a limestone cave or something which has been dug out. It looks like a cave to me, but it has no stalactites or stalagmites that I can see, but I may not be able to see it all either. It could be a large hole which has been dug out somehow. ???
The answer might be found with splunkers (cave explorers) in the area. They usually know all the caverns and how they connect. In our area there are very large caves which can only be accessed by going down a rope ladder in a small opening. Then when you get down the caves open up into large caverns. I don't know if this is the case there, but a geology map of the area might help.
When I look at those pictures, nothing jumps out at me, but I can "smell" an odor.
It is an odor of some type of chemical, but I can't identify it. It burns my nose.
Is there a chemical plant around there anywhere which gives off an odor? It could be upwind of where she is. I think it has some kind of a sulfur base in the chemical, but it is not a sulfur smell as such.
I believe there is another death involved, but an old death, not his previous wife.
This below was sent to you. When I look at this aerial view, I don't get the feeling it is the island, but there is a cave of some type around the long strip of land which has an opening to the strip body of water behind it. I believe there is a cave in that "crook" on the right as you first go through that passageway. It is about a cave, and there is water.
There is an acid smell. Maybe muratic acid? I know the smell, I just can't identify it.
Bolingbrook, I0
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=bolingbrook,+il.&ie=UTF8&ll=41.687512,-88.172901&spn=0.00242,0.005418&t=h&z=18&om=1
How do you feel about this little "island" in the middle of the river?
Or any of these other places within the highlited areas, zoomed in and
up-close, that you talked about.
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Hi, have posted your emails and thank you.
Brian
P.S. Again per your dream, they were using those bright white search lights
on the copters..you dreamed of white light.
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Thanks, will post this.
Brian
Check your map!!! They are getting warmer LOL
Found this on the boards:
***********
Anyone know/hear anything about a helicopter search over Bolingbrook? I live
near Weber and Boughton and a helicopter has made at least seven passes over
my home with their search light on. May be, and probably is, unrelated, but
just wanted to see if anyone knew anything.
Drew has been stopped several times for speeding and drinking and driving, yet he has never been charged. I wonder why?
***
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If this is true, only Drew and the police that stopped him can say. Seems pretty easy to just ask the cops what happened under oath...I'm sure the FBI is already has done this by now.
Brian
You said: Have they searched the quarry.
My answer:
They did a few weeks ago but not recently.
I got to thinking about something today. Another missing womans' body was
discovered in the Forest Preserve near Leo's bar.not too long ago the dogs
could pick up her scent if they don't use something of Stacy's when they are
tracking. The dogs could get a false hit. But maybe thats dumb thinking on
my part.
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Thanks, any chance they are using scents other than that of a decaying body?
Also, does anyone know if Drew took his dog for long walks? and if so...where?
Brian
You said:
Thank you...do you know if they have searched the area in blue...not in the
water?
My answer:
no clue at this point
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Ok
Brian: I found it. I also found something else:
This is a map of Leo's bar location (in red) If you look down and to the
right a little you'll see a V or fork in the Ships Canal. I matches the V at
the bottom of DD 6287 which is next to the barrel object. We know the F.B.I
vehicle is parked there so I would say this could be where she is. It is
very close to the quarry which fits also.
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Thanks, map posted...and I have highlighted the area you speak of and the quarry in blue.
Brian
http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Club+201&fb=1&near=Romeoville,+IL&cd=1&ie=UTF8&ei=6vNpR5CiLJHEjgG9vM3TBg&cid=41640273,-88074756,12375371842970675767&
li=lmd
You said:
Thanks, any chance they are using scents other than that of a decaying
body?
Also, does anyone know if Drew took his dog for long walks? and if
so...where?
My reply:
Someone on the find stacy peterson website said they wer just using the
Cadaver Search Dogs. and not the other kind. Bad news considering 7 perhaps
8 other bodies have been retrieved there fairly recently. Unless those crime
scenes are still marked in some fashion or have evidence they were searched
that remained that searchers can see those dogs are useless..I don't know
Drew's dog walking schedule.LOL
Another thing I have been unable to confirm is a rumor that Drew was a K-9
handler. Bad news if he was! I know he was a Narc Cop and Swat Team Member
for sure so probably has a good grasp on what those dogs will and won't
do..darn.
I contacted the pastor that had the protection order against Drew today and
requested he call the authorities if he could shed any more light on the
case. The court records is dated just a few months befor Kathleen Savio
died. He is a Greek Pastor.
Fran
P.S.
I believe that missing bike is also a big piece of the puzzle. Some one said
they have a bike like Drew's and can carry 125 lbs on it. Tracy weighed 100
lbs soaking wet. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Thanks for checking for me....Brian
12.22.2007
John Spira owned the cable company that supposedly Drew and Ric Mims worked
for 4 years ago. John mysteriously vanished in Feb. 2007 shortly before his
divorce was to be finalized and his business was burned to the ground back
in Sept. of this year.
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Thanks, posted...Brian
FYI
It is 6 1/2 miles from Drews house to the Vulcan Quarry in Plainfield.
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Thank you...Brian
In a nutshell here it is; I dreamed that I saw Stacy, suffocated and saw her stuffed into a capsule of some sort; white with orange stripes.(Traffic Barrels!!) I then saw the capsule thrown out of an airplane.
The plane was somewhere close to the highway with an H .(Hassert Blvd.)( Quarry??.)
http://www.cellreception.com/towers/towers.php?city=romeoville&state_abr=il
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Thanks again, will post these links too.
Brian
UPDATE:
I sent this with a piece missing, this wasn't my dream or post!!: Sorry I goof when I'm overtired Here is the missing piece of this:
Based on this post by a poster on the crime sleuth board.
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Ok, site updated...Brian
12-19-07 Source Chicago Tribune:
Meanwhile, Illinois State Police investigators resumed their search of the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal near Romeoville for Peterson's missing wife, Stacy, 23. Divers have been methodically combing the canal and quarries in the area for weeks.
Atta Boys!!!!!
12.23.2007
Brian: Late last night I started I started researching something someone had
said on a website and made an explosive discovery that may very well explain
what happened to Stacy where they can find the evidence of Drews actions
that night and possibly shed light info on others that have been missing
around him. I e-mailed the Illinois State Patrol instantly. I wish I could
share what I found, but I cannot as it would definately obstruct justice in
doing so until it can be collaborated and arrests made. Now comes the
waiting game..
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Hi, do whatever's legal first, and let me know when you can.
Brian
Update: This is where Drew obtained the blue totes. The purchase of the
barrels has been confirmed.
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Thanks...posted.
Brian
John Spira owned the cable company that supposedly Drew and Ric Mims worked
> for 4 years ago. John mysteriously vanished in Feb. 2007 shortly before
his
> divorce was to be finalized and his business was burned to the ground
back
> in Sept. of this year.
>
>
> Thanks, posted...Brian
>>
> Brian
12.25.2007
Good News. After I submitted that info. (I couldn't tell you what) the
authorities hav taken concrete visible action regarding it. By Golly Watson
LOL. Blessings to you and yours.
Fran
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Thanks Fran, and same to you and your family.
Brian
Updates:
#1
Tom Murphey's Girlfriend worked for BBPD as well...left in 2006 along with
Steve Peterson.
#2
investigators probing the disappearance of Stacy Peterson and the mysterious
death of her husband's third wife, Kathleen Savio, are looking into the
water usage at the Peterson home during the time sequence surrounding the
death and discovery of Savio's body.
12.30.2007
What is the difference between a search dog, cadaver dog, decomp dog and a
forensic evidence dog?
A "search dog" has little or no training in finding deceased humans. The
term "cadaver dog" came about after search and rescue dogs started to be
trained to look for expired lost persons and suicides. The term
"decomposition dog" was started by the NecroSearch group. They felt it
better describes how dogs will indicate decomp human scent which includes
blood, feces, urine or other material with human scent on it. We have
started to refer to our dogs as forensic evidence dogs because they are
being trained as specialist. They are not only finding human remains but
trace evidence and residual scent
What are the qualities and skills of a Forensic Evidence Dog?
The forensic dog is trained to alert on residual scent along with other
faint scent sources like dried blood. The dog is taught not to disturb the
crime scene by digging or retrieving evidence. An important skill the dog is
taught is how to search a home or vehicle without causing harm to property.
The dog is taught to discriminate between live human scent and cadaver
scent, and animal bones and human bones.
My dog is trained for search and rescue, can I also teach him to do forensic
evidence work?
Yes! Dogs are capable of understanding several disciplines at the same time.
Potential problems are: dogs trained in disaster must be very clear and have
a different alert for live and dead, occasionally dogs trained in both live
and dead scent will alert and we are unable to determine which of the two
they have alerted on. As the need for forensic evidence dogs increases we
see more handlers who are training specialty dogs. They feel that a dog that
has been imprinted on one type of scent is more accurate that a cross
trained dog.
Is evidence searching the same as forensic evidence?
Terminology gets confusing, people use different words to mean the same
thing or the same word to mean different things. We define evidence
searching as an article with live human scent on it. Forensic evidence
searching can be cadaver, decomposing human scent, or any body fluids from a
deceased person. These scents can be on an article, the actual body, in the
ground or residual. The main point is a forensic evidence dog is never
looking for live scent.
When would I use a search dog and when do I need a forensic evidence dog?
Obviously if you have an assumed live person you need search dogs. Searches
for suicides or expected recently deceased persons should also use search
dogs. Its a very good idea to use search dogs that have been imprinted on
cadaver scent. Dogs that have never had any training on cadaver scent will
sometimes act strange or will not know how to communicate their find. The
handler does not see the " normal" behavior and may not recognize what the
dog has found. Some dogs who have no training will avoid the deceased
person. We are learning that at the moment of death changes in the body are
occurring. Factors like heat and the condition of the body will also make a
big difference in the decomposition. The training of a forensic evidence dog
comes into play for cases like: buried bodies, disarticulation, old cases,
bone searches, blood evidence, residual scents, crime scenes, building
searches, and vehicle searches.
In Human Remains detection, the Nose Knows.
In a missing persons case it is hard to prove a crime happened without some
evidence. In cases where a dead body will be the likely outcome of a search,
Cadaver dogs are used to search, rather than standard Search and Rescue
dogs. Why? Because a Search and Rescue Dog is trained to find living humans,
and not detect decomposing flesh.
Cadaver Dogs are trained to locate and follow the scent of decomposing human
flesh. Not a pretty thought, but their job is vital to both families of the
victims, and to a justice system that ofttimes needs a body to prove a
crime. These dogs work both on and off leash and are trained to detect the
scent of decomposition that rises from the soil, same principle as when a
dog knows where he last buried his bone.
Dogs must be trained as trailing dogs and air-scenting dogs. Trailing dogs
follow a scent that has fallen on the ground. These dogs can pick out a
human, or in the case of Cadaver dogs, a decomposing human's scent that was
carried on a breeze, or "fallen" from a person carrying a body to it's
location. Air-scenting is similar to trailing, but an air-scenting dog must
be able to pick the scent out of a breeze and follow it to the source.
Special chemicals are used to simulate the scent of decomposing human flesh
in training Cadaver dogs. Unlike simulated narcotic smells, or other
training scents, simulated cadaver smells are not available to anyone but a
certified training facility.
Let's hope Drew doesn't have access to that chemical if he killed Stacy and
others luminal also.!!!
Both whole bodies and body parts are located using Cadaver dogs, and each
team member must be trained in evidence preservation.
It isn't just crime investigations that use Cadaver Dogs. In disasters as
well, these dogs are used in conjunction with Canine Search and Rescue teams
to locate both victims and survivors of disasters, natural and otherwise.
I wrote an expert online(Marcia Koenig) who trains cadaver dogs and found
some of her information interesting enough to post here. It was on the
holiday thread but I figure it should go where the topic was originally now
that the reg board is open. See Below I'll try to answer some of the
questions.
1. How long the cadaver evidence is available to a dog depends on the type
of evidence and where it is. Blood splatter can be available even if it is
painted over or washed with bleach. I don't know of any controlled studies
where they've studied if a dog can indicate the scent of where a body was
placed for a short period of time or on clothing. The dog can tell if
someone has been in a car by matching up a piece of cloth from the person
with scents in the car and then giving an indication such as a sit. However,
this is not a perfect science, and many people make claims that their dogs
can do things that may be impossible. We've done the matching in a car and
I've seen this done. If there are trace elements of blood or other body
fluids the dog may be able to pick this up.
If the police have a search warrant for the car they can use cadaver dogs as
the dogs are considered non-invasive.
I don't know of many chemicals that would foil a dog. If they were strong
enough they would be suspicious to the police. It is possible to clean out a
car so thoroughly that a dog wouldn't be able to pick it up. But people
cleaning often miss cracks and crevices where blood and other fluids are
caught.
Dogs can do amazing things, but beware of any dog handler that says he and
his dog are the best in the world and no one else can do as well. There are
lots of great dogs and handlers out there - and lots of ones who think they
are great and let everyone know!
Marcia
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Thanks Marcia, information posted...and dogs are amazing :)
Brian
12.29.2007
Brian This business was found by someone on findstacypeterson.com inder neighborhood thread. It is in the neighborhood where Kathleen Savio lived.
Environmental WastePro, Inc. (minority owned) • Laura Bray • 432 Pheasant Chase Drive • Bolingbrook, Illinois 60490 • 573-651-8935
At our site, Environmental WastePro (EWP) receives all types of hazardous liquid and solid waste materials for recycling, reuse or disposal. Typically, customers rely on EWP to process:
Paint sludges
Still and tank bottoms
Sludges
Inks and printing materials
Solvents
Industrials oils and lubricants
A wide variety of organic chemicals
Solvents
Towels
Gloves
Empty containers
Paint skins
Rags
Filter Cartridges Briansdreams mentioned Drew discarding a filter in the neighbors trash!!!
Reated epoxy resins
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Hi, I'm not sure but will post this information.
If ever missing person site had and open cyber sleuth forum section like the Peterson site, I'm willing to be that more cold cases would get solved.
Brian
1.3.2008
Hello: Getting closer. We found out Drew's friend owns three cessnas! Drew
praticing his SWAT team skill of rapelling out of a plane perhaps?
Do you have any idea when Spira might come up on the waiting list under
your pending cases? It really looks like they could well be related Thanks,
Fran
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Hi Fran, not sure but will check.
Brian
1.10.2008
You said:
If not, and he really did put her body in a barrel, wouldn't doing so keep
the body decaying?
Was able to find this article on the web, (below) it talks about a barrel
and hydrochloric acid.
If acid were in the barrel, and if it was eventually found, could it be
possible that all forensic evidence would be destroyed?
If the barrel is in water, and it's leaking...is it possible to locate the
barrel using traces of the acid in the water?
Can sniffer dogs be trained to search for the scent of hydrochloric acid?
Does anyone know how it could be possible for Drew to get such acid?
Just some questions that may or not be helpful.
I said:
Brian: I have a new friend who is a dog handler. They were part of SAR at
the WTC. She is testing the dog for a few days. Here are some of the
results:
Hi Fran,
Day 1: We put Hero through a few tests and because of the type of tests, we
are going to finish with more sometime tomorrow. Let me say first, that the
4 tests we put him through, he passed with flying colors....but tomorrow, we
will hopefully be able to put him through even more stringent tests. In
fact, today was almost too easy for him, but then again, we are in a
contained situation. I had asked for industrial skin gelatin to begin with.
My LE friend took the sample of clothing I gave him, put it into a large
plastic bin and proceeded to cover it with the gelatin...and I mean at least
3 ft. of it on top. He put the bin into an already constructed type of well
with a metal door and closed it. He then called me to bring Hero, without
letting me know where he had hidden the bin. I arrived at 6:21, Hero found
it within 23 minutes. This is a property of a one mile radius. Hero and I
then left the area. He then took polyolefin (shrink), took the mannequin,
along with the
shirt and wrapped it tightly around the mannequin and shirt and put it into
a thick metaled storage unit. We arrived at approx. 7:25. Hero took only
about 15 mins to find it. We then tried masking the mannequin with some
chlorine powder and barium sulphate which is an insulating agent and Hero
passed. Now I know there's so many more agents that could be used and I am
going to continue with it tomorrow as long as it's safe for Hero. They
didn't have any chemicals that they were aware of that would accelerate any
human decomposition. Actually, the fact that it's cold is on the side of
searchers in the fact that decomposition slows down in the cold. I will
research this through the night on chemicals and we can put our heads
together. My expertise is mostly K9 search but these are things that I can
help you with on getting more answers. I'll be in touch with you later.
fran ********* wrote:
Hi: Just wanted to caution you on something. Most of what I have told you
has not been put on web boards. Doing so would tip Drew off as well as his
helpers It was however sent to Illinois State Police.
Day 2
Listen, we did just a couple of little run throughs for Hero. The manager
had an emergency and just one employee who didn't have alot of experience
was sent to try and help us. Knowing he was not experienced with chemicals,
I wasn't ready to put Hero at risk. We redid the gel test and got almost
the exact same reaction from Hero. Different locations and Hero was on
target...almost quicker this time. As far as testing with anything like
hydrofuoric acid...one chemical that absolutely could be used to dissolve
human flesh to the bone, but has no smell whatsoever. If this was used just
say, Hero would not be able to smell the chemical and I imagine might be
able to pick up on her remains. As for the dry cleaning idea. I had my
friend cut himself slightly, and wipe it on his coat (i had him bring his
leather). He is dropping it off at the dry cleaners tomorrow, get it back
in two days and we'll
test Hero on it. I will be picking the coat up and not letting my friend
anywhere near it and see what happens. Bad day for testing for more
though...sorry.
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Thanks for this information...I hope they find her soon.
Brian
I saw a show on T.V. last night and your reference to STR is indeed related
to DNA. You might want to pass that one on to ISP. Anything on Spira yet?
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Hi thanks, and not yet.
Brian
1.19.2008
LE has recovered a womans body from Lake Michigan. No word on who it is yet.
Will update when I get more info. Stacy? Lisa?
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1.20.2008
Regarding the RV's you do...are the readings you get of where the body may be at that moment, or where they will be found.....??? For example, if a body was moved, whether it be by the murderer, and accomplice, or the elements, would you have to perform another RV to see this? In recognition of Stacy Peterson's birthday, and the vigils being held on Sunday, would it be possible to do another RV to see if the body has been moved, or is being moved along by the elements? Thank you for all the great work you do!
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Hi, I can try and will get it done as soon as I can.
Brian
1.21.2008
Drew's friend has been busy:
Meanwhile, a friend of Drew Peterson's was released Wednesday from the Will
County Adult Detention Facility after posting 10 percent of a $50,000 bail
after he was accused of beating his ex-girlfriend and her friend, then
allegedly threatening a witness.
Michael J. Robinson, 34, of Bolingbrook was charged with felony
intimidation, misdemeanor battery and domestic battery, according to police
and court documents.
Robinson was with the two women in an apartment complex elevator about 3:30
a.m. Monday when he quarreled with his ex-girlfriend, 32, over a phone call
and began choking her, said Bolingbrook police Lt. Ken Teppel. When her
friend, age 40, tried to intervene, Robinson allegedly punched her in the
face, authorities said.
Robinson dragged his ex-girlfriend and the friend into the apartment of a
third woman and again tried to choke the ex-girlfriend, Teppel said, and
when the friend tried to separate them, Robinson punched her in the face
several times, knocking her to the floor. Robinson left, and when police
arrived, they saw bruises and cuts on the friend's face, Teppel said.
Bolingbrook police sought a warrant for Robinson's arrest on battery
charges, but given his friendship with Peterson, Glasgow referred the case
to state police, Teppel said. He said the charge of witness intimidation was
not lodged by his department. Court records show the intimidation charge was
lodged after Robinson was accused of calling the third woman and threatening
to hurt her if she spoke to investigators.
Robinson has a lengthy history of arrests on a variety of charges, including
a 1993 conviction for unlawful delivery of a controlled substance for which
he was sentenced to 4 years probation.
His friendship with Peterson came to light after Ric Mims, a one-time friend
of the former sergeant, told the National Enquirer that Robinson provided
Peterson with a cell phone after police seized his old one as part of a
search warrant. Mims said Peterson and Robinson behaved suspiciously,
communicating in handwritten notes. Peterson said the only note passed
contained his cell phone number.
Peterson could not be reached for comment Wednesday but said last week he
has known Robinson for nearly two decades. "He was just a kid on the street
that I befriended, tried to keep him out of trouble," Peterson said.
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Thanks...Brian
1.25.2008
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/25/body.found/
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Police discovered a decomposed body Friday in
southwest Chicago -- a find that sparked unsubstantiated speculation it
could be related to the disappearance of Stacy Peterson.
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An ambulance and police cars stand by near the location where a woman's body
was found in Chicago Friday.
The body appears to be that of a female with reddish-blonde hair, a Chicago
Police Department spokesman said.
A city surveyor found the remains frozen to the ground near some train
tracks at about 2 p.m. The body was taken to the Chicago medical examiner's
office, where an autopsy has been scheduled.
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Sorry to hear this.
Brian
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Police discovered a decomposed body Friday in southwest Chicago -- a find that sparked unsubstantiated speculation it could be related to the disappearance of Stacy Peterson.
An ambulance and police cars stand by near the location where a woman's body was found in Chicago Friday.
The body appears to be that of a female with reddish-blonde hair, a Chicago Police Department spokesman said.
A city surveyor found the remains frozen to the ground near some train tracks at about 2 p.m. The body was taken to the Chicago medical examiner's office, where an autopsy has been scheduled.
Stacy Peterson disappeared in October. Her husband, Drew Peterson -- a former police sergeant in a Chicago suburb -- has been named a suspect in the disappearance.
He has consistently said he believes she ran away with another man.
The body was found about 20 miles from the Petersons' home, where she was last seen, CNN's Susan Roesgen reported.
Speaking to Nancy Grace on CNN Headline News, Drew Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, said local authorities have already asked a state task force working on Stacy Peterson's disappearance not to get involved.
"I can tell you, it is not Stacy," Brodsky said. "I can guarantee you that."
Brodsky offered no proof of his assertion.
Drew and Stacy Peterson have been married four years and have two children. Drew has other children from a previous marriage.
Authorities are re-examining the death of Peterson's previous wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found drowned in a bathtub in 2004.
1.31.2008
Also found DD confirmations today. Good work
Re: Suggested places based on Brian's RVs and other people's dreams
I drive a truck full-time and I drive locally, around the Chicagoland area. The ONLY place I've seen Vulcan and STAR together, is on Rte 126 on the east side of Plainfield right before I-55. I plan to check this area, even if it's only to take recon pics for Brian Ladd from Brian's Dreams.
Where ILL Rte 126 intersects with I-55, just east of Plainfield and bordering Bolingbrook, there are two signs on the south side of the street, "Vulcan" and "Star," almost right next to each other. Brian said, "Go to the mine. She is buried there." That does not mean she is INSIDE the mine, just AT the mine. That could be inside or outside on the perimeter. He drew a V-CAN sign and a STAR sign. Think outside the box. Here's a Link...The Google Earth pics are from 11-2006
Kate63
One more thing which comes to my mind is that 6 miles mentioned by Brian may mean the distance between Stacy's and Scott Rossetto's house. It is exactly 6 miles.[Stacy - 6 miles- murder is not boyfriend]
Consequently, [do not fall for trap 41428804] may mean IT ISN"T Bolingbrook area (if we take 4142 -8804 as location).
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: case #542
Brian Someone saw an object resembling this spiral object in a dream repeatedly. What do you think, I found this when searching for something that resembled the dream. It is at the Bolingbrook quarry where you believe she is. Quick Lime is manufactured there as far as we can discern from google.
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Thanks very much, which DD's were you referring too?
Also, two questions:
Is there anyplace at this quarry that uses high temperatures such as a steel furnace? Looking on Google earth I do not see any smoke stacks.
Did Drew have any friends that worked at this quarry?
Brian
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Vulcan does sell quicklime there. Found it in a pdf
I can't answer if he has friends there for sure but in Frannie lofic I can tell you this. Very often security guards are hired from moonlighting or ex police officers so it is very likely he does or even worked there himself.
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Thank you...Brian
2.4.2008
My comments in red
The Wheels Of Justice Turn Slowly..
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Thanks, posted.
Brian
Found on Stacy website edited by me to include people Drew knows
I went back to Sandra's web site heliumraven.com and listen again to this particular EVP message and I played it normal wave and it is "Barry" to me. I then re-read part of her writings this is what she wrote :
Drew: the police will talk
David: the police are knucklesheads
Drew: you need a oven
David: not if they're pieces you don't
Drew : the police are not knuckleheads. please God .... I hope they never talk to Barry
David : the DA could force him
OK all speculation here but I can't help wondering if Drew may know someone name Barry. (Yes, John Beery) I see reference that he does know some one named David (Yes: David Schurr,John David,David Stubben)
Also the phrase "knucklehead" just my thoughts here but you know how some people say a word and it kind of identifies them. I know someone who Say's cool .. that's so cool . Does Drew say that?
Also, talked to someone today whose husband is working on the Stebic case. They know he did it and are just waiting to pull all the evidence together. She confirmed the blood evidence on the tarp, as well as the cadaver dogs hitting in the house. She also mentioned other evidence (wasn't specific) that hasn't been made public. I didn't want to ask too much and put her on the spot. She was adament that they knew he did it and think he had help. I asked her if they thought his father was involved and she just smiled.
***
At issue is a motion filed in December by Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, asking that the court order police to return his client's two vehicles, 11 guns, computers and other items seized as part of a search warrant.
The witness, forensic scientist Ann Chamberlain of Speckin Forensic Laboratories in Okemos, Mich., formerly worked for the Michigan State Police and is a medical examiner for Eaton County, Mich. She was fired from her job with the state police in 2007 after she admitted in a divorce proceeding that she had used state equipment to test her husband's underwear to determine whether he was cheating on her.
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http://tirgana.livejournal.com/4187.html?view=1627#t1627
The "chief" doesn't have as much control as he thinks. Most don't want to know. But there are two who are actively hiding the truth. The woman is in the lab. She was to be wife number five. She is the source of the contamination. Her name is androgynous--Jan or Jamie. Short brown hair, hazel to blue eyes, young, pretty in her own right, but not beautiful. The other is higher up and remains in the shadows. He is younger but has more authority; his ego bullies and controls others with threats and promises. He does what he does not out of friendship but to protect his political ambition.
Note main st goes directly into New Ave. and 127th at some point. Wonder who does Security for the place. Bets Drew Knows them anyone? As I said moonlighting cops and ex cops are first pick for these security jobs.
Primary Contact: Mike Hurley
Phone: 630 257 3900
Fax: 630 257 3926
Web: www.kasteelchemicals.com
Email: *************
Address: 15185 Main Street
Lemont, IL 60439
Country: USA
Region: MidWest
Division: East North Central
Industry: Chemicals
Product: Hydrochloric acid
Type of Company: Manufacturer
Local business results for mines near Lemont, IL 60439
Kingston Mines
- www.kingstonmines.com - (773) 477-4646 - 11
B GI USA Inc
(630) 794-9500
Dry Systems Technologies
- www.drysystemstech.com - (630) 427-2051
Layfette Coal Co
- (630) 986-1226
Material Service Corporation: Machine Shop
- www.material-service.com - (815) 838-2400
Material Service Corporation Pipe Plant
(815) 838-6200 -
Weir International Mining
- www.weirimc.com - (630) 968-5400 - more
Ask Jim where that Silo is Please. Could be important.
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Will do...Brian
DD7024
"killer arrested 1/19 Kathy death 414 XXVI 414 - 41428804 111 street white male 40's Quary road"
11.19.2008
Brian! I think you've brought us all >< this much closer to finding Stacy Peterson, and here's why...
In this DD you mention 41428804, 26 (again, but this time in Roman numerals), "Kathy," which is Kethleen Peterson, and 111th, Quarry, etc. Dude, you are dancing on top of it this time. I can feel it. I'm sending two (2) links for areas of interest in the Stacy and Kathleen Peterson cases which show areas described as "111th." Please take a look at them. Switch from aerial to Bird's Eye view. Ask Gale to look at these and please let me know if either of you get anything. You indicate an arrest in 1-19. I've been looking for her for over a year and I think we can bring her home. Please let me know if anything strikes a chord with you, Gale or any of the others.
Thanks,
Jim
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Hi, will ask Gale to work on this...yes, I think this is related to that case and will add it to the file.
I still think she's where we've discussed in the past.
Brian
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=41.684194~-88.008513&style=h&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=26393735&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
12.15.2008
Nice talking with you Jim, hopefully we can find Stacy soon.
Brian
1.3.2009
Hi Brian,
Jim has been going through your Dream Archives, and has found a DD that he thinks is related to the Lisa Stebic and Stacy Peterson cases.
Your DD6076 has the name 'Lisa'. Even though it says 'Lisa', Jim thinks it is related to Stacy's case because of the close proximity of where they went missing from. The two locations are basically right next to each other.
What you have drawn looks like a platform or possibly an electrical transformer to Jim. He thinks it may be related to some kind of utility.
You wrote the numbers '19446'. Jim thinks that these numbers are related to the way the meridians run in the Chicago area. Based on locations for these two cases, it appears that you are indicating the '19400' block in the Chicago suburbs.
Lastly, '3 miles' could be the distance to Lisa and/or Stacy.
You will find your DD below.
Debra
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Thanks Deb, it could be...I think Gale might take a drive there.
Brian
"Lisa, 19446 -- 3 miles"
1.7.2009
Hi Gale,
I know you're busy, but I was hoping you could take a quick peek at this and give me your impressions.
A while back Brian drew a sketch of an "angle" with curved lines cutting thru the right side of the angle. On that sketch he wrote, "Stacy Peterson Is Found At The Quarry." The link I'm sending is for a quarry in Morris, Illinois, and it might (not confirmed yet) be a quarry where Bolingbrook Police Department practiced SWAT tactics. Drew Peterson (main suspect) was on that SWAT team and if this is the same place, he would now the area. It's also within flying distance of the air port where he keeps his ultralight airplane. When you get time, if you'd take a look, I'd appreciate it.
I hope your holidays went well.
Jim
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qwzc8c7n4g3b&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=35839822&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
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Hi Gale, let me look at it when I get up.
Brian
Does anyone get Stacy Peterson at this location? Please let me know ASAP
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qydv597npzvy&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=26388976&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
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Hi Jim, I think Gale is going to call you.
I'm not sure, is this the place by the shooting range.
Brian
1.31.2009
4.8.2009
Show #53 on this case.
Brian
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1361078
5.8.2009
Show about this case is below.
Brian
The remains were found 10 feet inland from the Des Plaines River in Channahon, Illinois.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/channahon-des-plaines-river-body-recovery-illinois-state-police.html
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